Response to a Liberal's declaration that Conservatives are short sighted.

Actually we are far sighted. We realize that a given action will have an effect later and that the first action should be thought out.

We recognize incrementalizim, now, for what it is. A tool for some to rob the lawful rights of citizens to enjoy what is lawful and what is their right.

We believe in deeds not words.

We believe that Americans have the right to dissent but don’t need to burn our flag to do it. If the dissenter claims that they needed to get other’s attention then they have to realize that they did. You burnt my flag and you have hurt me. Your message was lost to me.

We believe that everyone has the right to express their beliefs but also believe that people have the right to listen or not listen.

We also believe that we have the right to respond to what someone says. Again they have the right to listen or not listen. But if they don’t want to listen to our replies then don’t be surprise if we never listen to you again or that we might ridicule you at every turn.

It’s called respect.

We believe in our history. The good and the bad. We don’t believe that we can pass on our history to our descendants if they only hear bad things about our and our forefather’s conduct and expect them to love our country. This is not the Army where one “Aww Schyte” erases a thousand “Atta Boys.”

We don’t think that the courts should legislate. We are a country of people represented by the people.

We believe that all of the Constitution must be obeyed. It is not a “Living Document” that is open to interpretation of the people in a given time. The Constitution is a literal document with the means of changing it built into it.

We believe that human life is sacred. That is why we believe that when blood is shed it must be done for a reason. That is why when one lays down their life for me we are grateful. That is why when one goes into harms way we are appreciative.

And we also believe that the 45 million Americans have died needlessly. We believe in choice too. And the time to choose is before a woman gets pregnant not because it will be hard or an inconvenience. If a woman’s life is in danger then save the woman’s life. But that was never disputed. Should a woman keep a rapist’s baby? That is up to her. Should she have the baby? I would hope that she says yes. I would rather have my tax money supporting state run orphanages than to see an innocent life taken but that decision is a woman’s.

We know that this country was populated in general by people that believed in God and that they created our society and our government with the idea that God had delivered them and that all men should be allowed their beliefs. We recognize that there are people working to First dispute and ridicule that truth. Second that people that believe in religion are not in complete control of their faculties or that they have not been educated to the truth that they are believing in myths. And Third that even though people that don’t believe in God flourish here that they are in danger by those that do believe in God so the faithful must be eradicated.

We believe that our form of government is the best from of government. We recognize that Communize along with Socialism is a flawed system of government that by design bankrupts itself and robs the hopes and aspirations of it’s people with promises of security. Monarchies, dictatorships and Juntas are even worst. And the worst of all are Democracies.

We know that the ACLU does more harm than good and that it manipulates a system that is used to address grievances. It is a remnant of the Soviet Union and American agents of communists.

We know that the U.N. is not functioning as it was conceived and that we must never lose our sovereignty to it.

We believe that minorities don’t need a helping hand. They don’t need to be baby-sat. They need to be treated equally and to be allowed to flourish.

“We must treat each man on his worth and merits as a man. We must see that each is given a square deal, because he is entitled to no more and should receive no less” Theodore Roosevelt

We believe in criticizing our own party leaders when they are wrong or are not following our wills. Unlike liberals. We throw the bums out. We don’t rally around them.

Oh I can right pages and pages more but I hope that you get the gist of what I am saying.

Now what are liberal views that should be held aloft?

Response to a Liberal's declaration that Conservatives are short sighted.

A response and a response to a response.

[quote]So why bash liberals for expressing their opinions and telling them this is the way it is, my way or the highway?[/quote]
We or at least I am not bashing your right to express those opinions. We/I am bashing your opinions. It’s not like we are talking about your Momma.

Only when your body has been dumped on the highway will you be right that it is my way or the highway.

[quote]Who is supposed to legislate. [/quote] Our elected representatives. As I understand it a court only interprets not legislate. [/quote] Abortion, bussing, taxation, gay marriage. All through the courts and none of it done through the legislative process.
[quote]You do realize that the very reason it is changeable is the reason it is called a living document? [/quote] I used the term “Living Document” in the liberal sense. [quote] If you believe that all of it must be obeyed then why banter back and forth on issues such as abortion and religion vs. evolution. [/quote] Because it is our right to discus ideas. And to go through the Legislative process to make changes.

[quote]We believe that human life is sacred. That is why we believe that when blood is shed it must be done for a reason. That is why when one lays down their life for me we are grateful. That is why when one goes into harms way we are appreciative.

So what is the world domination schism? Are we a junior communist nation much like that of Hitler? [quote] Hitler was a liberal socialist. Nazi is an acronym for National Socialist Party. I am sorry if you could not understand the above statement.
[quote]So basically you believe in limited choice? [quote] Abortion as a contraceptive is wrong. [quote] If half the people say they want to be able to choose when and how they choose and you say the other half says before, then the choice only makes sense when it is in agreeance with you not when it is in agreeance with the people-the people that don’t represent you? [/quote]Some people believed that way about Slavery. That was wrong too. That is why Democracies are bad. But if we had not fought the Civil War we would have eventually outlawed Slavery legislatively though I wish we never had it in the first place.

[quote]We know that this country was populated in general by people that believed in God and that they created our society and our government with the idea that God had delivered them and that all men should be allowed their beliefs. We recognize that there are people working to First dispute and ridicule that truth. Second that people that believe in religion are not in complete control of their faculties or that they have not been educated to the truth that they are believing in myths. And Third that even though people that don’t believe in God flourish here that they are in danger by those that do believe in God so the faithful must be eradicated.

This whole statement seems a contradiction. [/quote] Again I am sorry you can’t understand my statement that there is no “Separation between Church and State” written into our constitution.

[quote]The worst of all are democracies? What do you think we are? [/quote] A Republic. They difference.

[quote]What do you think we are fighting to give the people in IRAQ? Is that a false banner that we fly under to all the other nations of the world? [quote] A Republic that gives representation to all members of it’s society regardless of faith, gender or tribe.

[quote]So this is not a team mentality, this isn’t for the people, this is for the individual? This is whatever I can do to break everyone else back as long as I come out on top. I am all about opportunity. [quote] Yes. Someone has to be on top and I do want it to be me. But all that I ask for is the right to compete on a level playing field. Is that a foreign concept to you?

[quote]Ive seem to be doing fine so far. Just wanted to see what intellectuals there really were here. [/quote] Good luck in your pursuits though many here may call you dumb I doubt any will claim to be an Intellectual, though there are a few lurking here.

A lesson on incrementalizim.

A lesson on incrementalizim.

No Smoking

It all started with anti-smokers groups that wanted a few seats reserved in the back of the airplane for nonsmokers. Then it went to where they demanded that the smokers should sit in the back. Then it was banning smoking on short flights that were less than 2 hours. After all you can refrain for 2 hours. Right? Then it went to an all out ban for any flight in the continental US. Then it was all flights. Next it was no smoking in Airports. The bars at first excluded. Then the bars. Next was the Taxi to the Airport. After that it was the office. Then no smoking in front of the building. Later it was no smoking on the docks or behind the buildings. Onward the Smoking Nazis marched. No smoking in your own car. No smoking in the Ballparks and Stadiums. No smoking Apartments. Then they banned them in restaurants and bars. Then the Smoking Nazis started to sue to make their neighbors quit smoking in the own homes next to theirs. Now in California they don't want smoking in city parks. Next will be the city sidewalks and streets. And after that the jackbooted thugs will be kicking in the door of the ranch owner who’s nearest neighbor is 30 miles away.

All the while it is a legal product being taxed currently at 1,250%. That is right it is not taxed 2% or 10%. Not at 100% or 1,000%. Smokers pay for a product that is sold for .45 cents a pack and is taxed at 12 times its value.

If it is so bad and costs so much in the human toll then why not just make them illegal?

Now we have gotten to the point where good honest law abiding citizens are being required to give up their right to privacy to the fascist anti-smoking Nazi thugs or they are going to take away your livelihood. Forcing you to comply or they will force you to take low paying jobs. If you can find one, reducing your standard of living, forcing you out of your home and eventually taking away your kids.

Berating you, humiliating you, scouring you.

Hunting you down, invading your homes, violating your bodies. Denying you any dignity and privacy.

But it is all for your own good. Someone smarter than you has made a decision for you. That person just cares for you after all and you are so helpless. You are so in need of guidance. After all your superiors, the master race, have only your welfare at heart. So that you can contribute to Fatherland.

Comply.

Resistance is futile. You Vill Comply! Ve Vill Make You OBEY. CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL CIGGHIEL

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Cigarette Swastika http://www.quitsmoking.com/images/signs/roundgoldonblackthumb.jpg

And now the social engineering fascist have Obesity as it Great New Crusade.

[b]"First they came for the Smokers but I was not a Smoker - so I said nothing. Then they came for theObese, but I was not Obese - so I did nothing. Then when they came for me, there was no one left who could stand up for me."[/b]